{"id":105,"date":"2019-04-18T16:09:37","date_gmt":"2019-04-18T23:09:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/?p=999946923"},"modified":"2019-04-18T16:09:37","modified_gmt":"2019-04-18T23:09:37","slug":"qa-how-one-parent-de-stigmatizes-cannabis-at-home","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/hi-lo\/art\/qa-how-one-parent-de-stigmatizes-cannabis-at-home","title":{"rendered":"Q&#038;A: How one parent de-stigmatizes cannabis at home"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>With a certain herb-centric holiday just around the corner, what better time to talk about the recently legalized plant than now? With parents figuring out how to address the topic with their kids, we spoke with one progressive mother, Mskindness B. Ramirez, about how she speaks with her children\u2014her 6-year-old daughter and 9-year-old son\u2014about cannabis. Ramirez, 40, says cannabis is simply a part of her and her family\u2019s lifestyle, but full disclosure, Ramirez is considered somewhat of an expert when it comes to using and promoting its medicinal qualities.<\/p>\n<p>She\u2019s the founder of the nonprofit Club Kindness, Inc., providing consumers, brands and dispensaries with information on how to use cannabis to improve health and wellness, is the creator of a line of low-dose cannabis products for women, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.elixirsbykindness.com\/about-us\/\">Elixirs by Kindness<\/a>, and as a former educator with a bachelor&#8217;s in psychology and master&#8217;s in education, has spoken at a number of Long Beach Collective Association events, a local organization with the mission to provide safe and legal cannabis access for residents.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s how she approaches cannabis with her kids:<\/p>\n<p><b>Did you have a plan for how you would talk to your children about cannabis before they were born?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Yes, I never had a doubt that it was going to be included in our lifestyle.<\/p>\n<p>My son knows more about cannabinoid science than I\u2019d say most adults. He will happily talk about his CBD use and how it helps him to stay focused in class, and he grows plants with us in our garden. We have fruits and vegetables and all herbs and he\u2019s mindful of that. But he also knows that not everyone supports this lifestyle so we just don\u2019t talk about it at school. And that\u2019s it, I make it very simple for them. Both he and my daughter, they use the term \u201ccannabis\u201d, they talk about hemp and the difference between CBD and THC and why they cannot have THC.<\/p>\n<p>I also talk to them about not smoking it until they\u2019re adults in a very matter of fact way, just like alcohol. It\u2019s just never been taboo and so they don\u2019t really understand that concept.<\/p>\n<p><b>What do you think would happen if they did talk about this lifestyle at school?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I know that particularly women of color have a higher rate of our children being taken from us or some sort of interception from [Child Protective Services] because the neighbor smells cannabis. We\u2019re still dealing with this very real issue today, despite the fact that I have a masters degree, I\u2019m a homeowner, I\u2019m happily married, I have two healthy children, one phone call can really ruin your life. And I\u2019m public with my brand and who I am, so some of my kids\u2019 peers\u2019 parents know what I do, and frankly some of them are my clients. But I just want [my kids] to know that they shouldn\u2019t be there saying, \u201cOh, you know, the other day my mom was smoking a joint in the backyard\u2026\u201d that kind of dialogue, he understands, is not appropriate for public discussion.<\/p>\n<p><b>When and how did you first introduce this to your kids?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not something that I introduced necessarily like, \u201cHere, let\u2019s sit down and have a conversation about cannabis.\u201d It\u2019s a part of our lifestyle. When I\u2019m smoking outside, I say, \u201cGo inside\u201d just like I would with cigarette smoke I wouldn&#8217;t want them to be inhaling that second-hand smoke.<\/p>\n<p><b>Do you drink alcohol at home and do you treat it in a similar manner?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I actually do drink alcohol and I do not treat it in a similar manner because alcohol is far worse, and I make that very clear to my son. We talk about cannabis as a supplement, we talk about it as a vitamin and we talk about it as medicine. We do not talk about alcohol in that way. We talk about alcohol as an intoxicant that\u2019s intentionally used to take the edge off and my son has seen, unfortunately, we\u2019ve all seen, some incidents where there was too much alcohol involved and things go wrong, so we definitely do not frame them in the same way.<\/p>\n<p>I know that\u2019s what people are trying to do right now because we need to figure out how to get kids to not use it until a certain age; I think we need to present very real facts. I tell my son [how smoking] is bad for a developing brain, and your frontal lobe is not developed until 25 or 26; I need you to have all your health in order so that you can live your best life, and for that reason, you don\u2019t want to be smoking cannabis. I\u2019m very, very matter of fact.<\/p>\n<p>I have said to him, if we were to come across a scenario in which you needed micro-dosing of THC as you got older, we can explore that, just like we would explore any other medicine. But it would be via edible form and in micro doses.<\/p>\n<p><b>When your kids are older and their peers start to smoke; have you talked about that yet?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>We talk about smoking in a very literal way. My daughter is very bossy, she has said she\u2019s not going to use cannabis, it\u2019s not her thing, she doesn\u2019t like the way it smells, my son does like the way it smells, the total opposite. I see her telling her friends that smoking is bad for their frontal lobes. I hear her saying that in her little smart-ass voice. We talk about vaping as well because I&#8217;m more concerned about that than smoking because we just have no longitudinal studies, we haven&#8217;t seen positive results, I don\u2019t think we should be breathing in propylene glycol into our lungs.<\/p>\n<p><b>Have you ever rolled a joint in front of your kids? <\/b><\/p>\n<p>All the time. They know what it is, they know not to touch it, our supplies are locked up. I\u2019m lucky that I have some good friends in the industry so I get some nice products to keep my stuff in. They know what I do, they know that\u2019s mom\u2019s office, the door\u2019s locked, but they\u2019ve absolutely seen me roll a joint.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_999946805\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-999946805\" style=\"width: 1800px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/0417-Pot-02.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-999946805 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/0417-Pot-02.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1800\" height=\"1204\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-999946805\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mskindness B. Ramirez, Founder, CEO and Educator of Club Kindness in Long Beach. Wednesday, April 17, 2019. Photo by Thomas R. Cordova.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b>What was your experience with cannabis growing up and how did your family deal with it?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>My father is a very conservative black man and he was in the military and former law enforcement. I was born in the late 70s, but I\u2019m really an &#8217;80s baby, so it was not something that was very positive. It was, in fact, very negatively framed. My dad compared people who used weed or cannabis to crackheads. It\u2019s laughable now, right? But that was their view, that this is a drug that is causing damage in our community and it\u2019s not something you should ever use.<\/p>\n<p>My mom wasn\u2019t as vocal about it, but she supported that view. She had a negative experience with her ex before my dad who was a heavy cannabis consumer.<\/p>\n<p><b>Do your parents know that you partake?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Absolutely, so I have turned my parents all the way out. They are no longer the same people. My dad has made a 180, is actually a socio-equity applicant in the industry now.<\/p>\n<p>I injured myself when I was 26 weeks pregnant with my daughter. I slipped and fell on a puddle and damaged my pelvis. So I hadn\u2019t really been using cannabis prior to that on a regular basis, it was just a recreational thing; something I did at parties with friends. It wasn\u2019t until this injury occurred that doctors wanted to write me all these prescriptions for opioids that I said no, let me find alternatives, and literally just googled \u201cmanaging chronic pain\u201d and cannabis was at the top of the list.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m a former classroom teacher, I\u2019m naturally an academic, I started to do research\u2014I mentioned how I question everything\u2014and it was clear to me that we had been lied to. I obviously looked into the history, I figured out, wow, this is our birthright, we need this. I looked at the political history, I discovered why and how we replaced slavery, and just decided that everyone needed to know the truth.<\/p>\n<p>So I started playing around with tinctures, created my own product and called my dad. He was the first call I made when I decided to file for a collective and I said, \u201cDad, I\u2019m doing this and if I go to jail, you\u2019re my first call.\u201d And he said, \u201cI know you\u2019re smart, I see what\u2019s going on in the world, and I support you.\u201d And I turned him out with one little 5 mg. Kiva chocolate ball and he woke up the next day, he had no pain in his shoulder, he hadn\u2019t slept that well in years, and the rest is history, for both my parents actually. My mom is a regular CBD user now.<\/p>\n<p><b>Do you have any advice for older parents, those who experienced the war on drugs in the 70s, for example?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>To that group I always say, \u201cjust google it\u201d, literally.<\/p>\n<p>I will talk about [cannabis] with anyone. If I\u2019m in the grocery store and an older woman in front of me says her knee is hurting I will say to her, have you considered trying cannabis topicals on your knee? And they\u2019ll say, \u201cWhat\u2019s cannabis?\u201d, which is funny, right, and I say, \u201cMarijuana\u201d and they go, \u201cOh\u201d and it always starts an amazing conversation. Just google it!<\/p>\n<p>And Club Kindness is here for you, put that plug in there!<\/p>\n<p><b>Is there anything else you\u2019d like to add?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I would want to encourage parents to look beyond the surface when it comes to what they\u2019ve been told about cannabis. Do that for yourself and do that for your children.<\/p>\n<p><i>This interview was edited for length and clarity.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;I never had a doubt that it was going to be included in our lifestyle,&#8221; said Mskindness B. 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