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Drummer Scott Devours just completed a sold out European tour of Quadrophenia with The Who. In Part 1<\/a> of my conversation with him, he shared the story of his early years in Maryland, the rise and fall of the band, Speaker, and his roll in creating the underground music venue, The Space. In Part 2<\/a>, he spoke about the importance of working with Rich Mouser, his time with Oleander and IMA Robot, and how a one-off gig with a cover band landed him the job of touring with rock legend Roger Daltry. In Part 3, he talks about his gig with Roger, the fateful call to fill in for Zak Starkey, and the unbelievable scramble to prepare for that opportunity. <\/p>\n Scott<\/strong>: I think the reason I was so caught off-guard wasn\u2019t just because it was such a big opportunity, and I wanted it so bad. Everybody who auditioned wanted it bad. I\u2019m just one of a large number of people. Odds were very much not in my favor. But it was because Roger quit so early with me that I\u2019m like, \u201cI\u2019m screwed.\u201d Two songs. He had me learn seventeen and he wants to hear two? Clearly, I\u2019m not as good as I thought I was. So I was just totally convinced. <\/p>\n \u201cI gotta call my family again. I didn\u2019t get it. Boo hoo.\u201d I auditioned for Beck, didn\u2019t get that. Lots of near misses, you know. Big disappointments. So I was all prepared to call my family and like, \u201cI didn\u2019t get it.\u201d <\/p>\n But that\u2019s what Frank [Simes] said, when he finally convinced me that I had it. I was like, \u201cYeah, but he didn\u2019t even want to play with me.\u201d He\u2019s like, \u201cThat\u2019s because he knew right away you were the guy. He made that decision the second you played Johnny Cash with him. ‘That\u2019s the guy. I don\u2019t need to hear anybody else.\u2019 He just went through the motions because everybody else was booked and he didn\u2019t want to be a dick, and he heard a lot of fantastic drummers but something clicked, and he just\u2026That\u2019s why he didn\u2019t want to play anymore. He was like, ‘He\u2019s the guy. Done.’ He immediately said, ‘That\u2019s the guy, no doubt.'” <\/p>\n So I was just, \u201cHoly shit, it happened. It fucking happened.\u201d And I got to call my family and it was the call that got everybody crying. Finally, there was some good news, you know, ten, fifteen years of, \u201cWell, we got dropped,\u201d or \u201cOur single didn\u2019t go to radio.\u201d It was just disappointing. You know how a musician\u2019s life is. A bunch of near-misses. You just aim and you miss. That\u2019s just how it is. <\/p>\n So this was the one call that was, \u201cHey, things are going to be great.\u201d The tour was going to be the biggest tour of my life, and it was someone that they knew. That was the game-changer. \u201cWe know who that is; the guy who twirls the microphone.\u201d Although my mom still thinks it is Daughtry. I think, for the first month, she was like, \u201cYeah, my son\u2019s playing with a guy from American Idol \u2013 Daughtry.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cNo. No. Not Daughtry.\u201d \u201cI said, Daltrey.\u201d \u201cNo, you said\u2026okay.\u201d A little comedy in all of it. <\/p>\n Sander<\/strong>: After you processed that you actually got the gig, it must have been quite a process between where you were and actually walking out onto a stage. There must have been extensive rehearsals and all kinds of other things involved in bringing that to fruition. What was that like? <\/em><\/p>\n Scott<\/strong>: It was remarkably less than I thought, and a lot less than most people think of. The Who, in general, and definitely Roger… that\u2019s part of the Who mentality. There really isn\u2019t that much rehearsal. We blocked off time and we went up there every day for a week, but they don\u2019t burn out. They just get up there and do it. I don\u2019t know if I\u2019m saying it right, but that\u2019s their mentality. <\/p>\n You look at that early footage: They\u2019re just fearless. Hendrix was before them and they were like, \u201cWe don\u2019t give a shit. Fuck it. Just get up there and just blaze.” They\u2019re absolutely fearless. They approach everything, just pound into it. So that\u2019s how I played, at the time, certainly still try to play and that\u2019s how I approach that music and I think that\u2019s why Roger and I got a long so well. You don\u2019t worry about it. You don\u2019t think about making mistakes. You\u2019re going to make mistakes. The Who made all sorts of mistakes. Nothing was ever the same way twice. I just played shows with them, Pete was in the wrong key and he didn\u2019t give a shit. It\u2019s Pete. Who cares? <\/p>\n Sander<\/strong>: I went to see them at the Coliseum in LA in 1981, right after Kenny Jones had taken over for Keith Moon, and one of the things that really surprised me was how much they stretched out in their songs. They have these three minute songs that they would stretch out and just tear it up and jam, and I never really thought of them in that context until I\u2019d seen them actually do it. It was sort of amazing, how they would just go off. Are they still doing that now? <\/em><\/p>\n Scott<\/strong>: Oh, yeah, but in the Roger gig there wasn\u2019t that much of that. We weren\u2019t playing everything as The Who. He definitely didn\u2019t want us to sound like a Who cover band at all. But there was only a certain amount of exploration. That exploration originates, in my opinion, with Pete. Pete is absolutely the captain of the ship. Then you can go to the Moonie time, Moonie and Entwistle, you know, Pete would head the ship and steer it in one direction, and then Keith would go, \u201cOh, okay,\u201d and then he would take it this direction, and Entwistle would pick up on that and move it back to this. <\/p>\n I don\u2019t want to comment too much on \u2018back then.\u2019 When you see the footage, you see what you see, but Zak [Starkey], definitely on this last tour… I played six shows, and then I was there on the rest of the tour just as a back-up, just in case his arms flared up. So I got to watch them every night, front row, watch how they interact. It was mind-blowing. It\u2019s the most pure, direct influence where one musician, all the musicians, but the drummer especially is just playing off of every whim that Pete feels like playing. And it doesn\u2019t matter what he does, where he goes. He can just stop the song right in the middle, and he will. If he wants to do it, that\u2019s where you go. If he wants to change the key, if he wants to do a twenty-minute solo, he just does it. And Zak is an absolute genius at reading his body language, predicting where he\u2019s going to go. Those are incredibly huge shoes to fill. Almost impossible. I mean, he\u2019s his own artist. <\/p>\n In stepping into that position, and you\u2019re sort of learning on the fly in developing that rapport on the fly, and especially if you\u2019re not going to have a whole bunch of time to rehearse before hand. They probably don\u2019t need to rehearse. They know the stuff backwards and forwards. They could probably play it in their sleep. <\/p>\n The catch is, from all the management, Pete\u2019s never shown up for a sound check. This tour is the first one where he\u2019s ever shown up for sound. He used to refuse to sound check. He\u2019d just walk on stage and play. That\u2019s Pete. They were like, \u201cYou guys should feel honored that he even cares to show up for sound check.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cI do, because I need it. I can use all the help I can get.\u201d <\/p>\n Sander<\/strong>: Do you feel you can develop that rapport? Obviously, you\u2019re a talented musician, and you\u2019re used to listening and paying attention to whomever it is your playing with, but what has that learning curve been like for you? <\/em><\/p>\n Scott<\/strong>: It was a really incredibly tough, the toughest experience of my life, times a thousand, because with Rog, we never touched Quadrophenia. Quadrophenia is what the Who are touring on, and were touring on when I got the call. So when I was with Rog, we focused one hundred percent on Tommy. We played The Real Me a handful of times. That\u2019s one song off Quadrophenia. There\u2019s fifteen others. They\u2019re anthemically long and crazy live. <\/p>\n So when I got the call, not to get heavy at all, but it was days after my dad passed, and I was home taking care of and being with my family. So I was out of it. You can just imagine, you know, what those experiences are like. Everything\u2019s secondary. I didn\u2019t care about music. I hadn\u2019t touched a pair of drum sticks. Hadn\u2019t listened to music. <\/p>\n Had that not been the case, maybe I would\u2019ve been brushing up on Quadrophenia or spending time like just because I love it. But I had never taken a critical ear to it. I never had a reason to play it live. Never had an inkling that I would. As a matter of fact, I was certain, \u201cWell Zak\u2019s their drummer. Clearly, I\u2019m not going to be playing it.” <\/p>\n The truth is that it was almost too difficult to listen to. And then, if you pile on top of that the emotions involved in losing your parent and under really awful circumstances… I did try to listen to Quad a couple of times but it just hurt. That\u2019s just the truth. I couldn\u2019t get through it. I\u2019d get through maybe a couple of seconds of I Am The Sea and got emotional. I\u2019m like, \u201cI can\u2019t do this right now.\u201d But I felt safe. I\u2019m like, \u201cThere\u2019s no reason to stress over that. I\u2019m not their drummer. They have one of the greatest drummers in the world.\u201d <\/p>\n So, when I got that call on a Tuesday that, \u201cHey, can you come down to San Diego and play Quadrophenia in front of twenty thousand people,\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cWhat?\u201d The only way it could happen, and I was a little embarrassed by this, but I had to spend hours on the way down there making notes, and I mean notes of every conceivable note. Not musical notes, but notes that I could read; script that only I understood. Like this many beats, add two beats, add two beats here. Four-four here but it\u2019s six-eight here. Solo, wait for beat, you know? It was fifteen sheets of me just scribbling through furiously and sloppily, and I finished the notes. <\/p>\n I was way late. I was so late that everybody was so stressed when I got down there, and for good reason, too. But they really didn\u2019t know what they were putting on my shoulders. They just knew they needed someone to bail them out, or cancel the show, and there\u2019s billions of dollars at stake. And their fans, they don\u2019t want to let their fans down. <\/p>\n So I get down there, and I was fully dependent on notes for those six shows. I was embarrassed to admit that. It\u2019s not like I walked up to Pete and said, \u201cYou know I can\u2019t watch you as much as I want to because I\u2019m staring at my notes. It was clearly apparent because, when he\u2019d look at me, I was doing this [staring down] a lot because I\u2019m trying not to lose my place and miss a million cues that I don\u2019t have memorized. Plus, the live versions are completely different that the studio versions. They\u2019re not even the same animal. And I got the live recording two hours before the show. Two hours before sound check. It was a nearly-impossible scenario. I\u2019m still buzzing over that experience. <\/p>\n Sander<\/strong>: Have you had a chance to go back and listen to any of those shows? <\/em><\/p>\n Scott<\/strong>: I actually did get copies of the recordings, but I haven\u2019t been able to listen to the first day, even though they said it was great. I think they think it was great because the expectations were very low. When I first pulled up, they had wanted sound check at like two o\u2019clock. I think I pulled up at 5:30. <\/p>\n Sander<\/strong>: When was the show? At 8:00? <\/em><\/p>\n Scott<\/strong>: Eight o\u2019clock sharp. And you know, [the show] is an hour and a half, hour and three quarters. Just Quadrophenia, live, is that long. I walk in. Pete\u2019s on stage. I can see everybody\u2019s expression. Roger\u2019s all\u2026 [scowls] The managers are looking at their watches. I\u2019m trying not to let that make me even more nervous than I already am. And I walk on stage and I sit behind Zak\u2019s enormous kit. It is the largest, not the most things but the largest crashes, 24\u201d, and the double-kick and toms all around. Everything\u2019s a mile away, and I\u2019m just like, \u201cAgh.\u201d There\u2019s no high-hat. I\u2019m like, \u201cHow am I going to play this thing?\u201d <\/p>\n Before I know it, to my right, is Pete. And he\u2019s just sitting right next to me and I was like, \u201cOh. Hi, Mr. Townshend.\u201d In my mind I\u2019m thinking that. He was so wonderful. It was the most amazing conversation of my life. I\u2019ll never forget. <\/p>\n He just very calmly just looked me in the eye, and he\u2019s just like, \u201cLet\u2019s talk, before you worry about any of this. Let\u2019s just\u2014Just talk to me for a second.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cSure.\u201d And he pulled no punches, man. He said it like it is, and I love him for that. I think I played the way I played because of the way he talked to me. I would\u2019ve been nervous had he not been. <\/p>\n He said something to the effect of, \u201cYou are walking into a really difficult situation. I don\u2019t know if you have heard the way Zak and I play together.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, yes, I have.\u201d He\u2019s like, \u201cWell, we have a very special connection. We play off of each other very well, and we\u2019ve been doing it for a long time. And that\u2019s what you\u2019re up against. You\u2019re filling those shoes. That\u2019s asking an incredible amount of anybody, and we\u2019re asking that of you. <\/p>\n “This tour is going better than we ever expected. We\u2019re getting rave reviews, sold-out shows most of the places. We have a lot at stake. If you think we\u2019re asking too much of you, if you don\u2019t feel that you can play up to that level, you don\u2019t have to. I\u2019ll cancel the show right now, and it\u2019s no skin off your back. We\u2019ll even pay you for today just for coming down. But I need you to tell me whether or not you feel up to it because only you know that.\u201d <\/p>\n It was so earnest, so direct. No bullshit whatsoever, and he wasn\u2019t being condescending at all. Like, \u201cI don\u2019t know if you\u2019re good enough to handle it.\u201d It wasn\u2019t like that. He was saying it like it is. I had passed the Who fans lined up outside, with the doors delayed because of me. I walked past them. I know what\u2019s at stake. I want to be in the audience. So, he was so honest and earnest with me, I felt totally obligated, to not exaggerate, and certainly not to lie. <\/p>\n So I just spoke very matter-of-factly to him, looked him right in the eye and said, \u201cI know. Everything you\u2019re saying, I\u2019m aware of, and you\u2019re absolutely right. The chemistry with Zak is beyond special. There is no other chemistry like it in the music industry. And honestly, even some of the best drummers in the world, asking them to come in on a moment\u2019s notice and duplicate that might be asking too much. There are a handful of people on the planet that could probably do that, and I\u2019m not egotistical enough to say that I\u2019m going to be able to do that. <\/p>\n “I honestly think that\u2019s the wrong question to ask. I think it\u2019s unfair for you to have to ask it. It\u2019s also unfair for it to be asked of me. Of course, I\u2019m not going to play like Zak. Nobody but Zak is going to play like Zak. It\u2019s like filling Moonie\u2019s shoes. Nobody\u2019s Moonie. But if you change the question to ‘do you want to save the show,’ I feel pretty confident that, with the notes I\u2019ve taken, and if everybody\u2019s really visual about how they cue me, I can get through the show. If you want to save the show, if you don\u2019t want to cancel on all the fans, and you just want to get through it to save it, I think that\u2019s feasible, and I think I can do a good job. <\/p>\n “But me having to make the call as to whether or not to cancel the show: That\u2019s not my call. That\u2019s your call. If the expectation is no less than Zak, what Zak brings to the table, then if you want to cancel the show, I totally understand. I respect that. But if you want to just have some fun and just go for it, I think it could be a fun night.\u201d <\/p>\n And he just kind of put his hand on my hand with a kind of a sullen expression, and said, \u201cOkay. Thank you for your honesty,\u201d and he walked off slowly. And as soon as he walked away and put his back to me I was like, \u201cI just gave away The Who.\u201d I thought it was over right then. When he walked away so slowly, I thought he was going to the manager and be like, \u201cYeah, pull the plug. This is not happening.\u201d <\/p>\n So I sat there behind Zak\u2019s kit and I looked at that giant arena with most of The Who members up there, and Roger\u2019s right there. I just remember I grabbed his sticks and I was like, \u201cWell, this is as close as I ever get to playing with The Who. I\u2019ll take it. Absorb this, man. Never forget this feeling. Even this is an honor. Just being asked and failing. I know tons of people who would give anything just for that shot, and I just got that shot, even if I didn\u2019t get it. Just remember this moment.\u201d <\/p>\n Then, Pete put on his guitar, and he\u2019s like, \u201cAlright, let\u2019s do it.\u201d And I was like, \u201cWhat did he say?\u201d I didn\u2019t have my ears in, I didn\u2019t have the kit ready, I didn\u2019t have my high-hat up, I didn\u2019t have my sticks out. He\u2019s like, \u201cYeah, let\u2019s run through it real quick.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cBut, but wait.\u201d And I just threw my ears in my thing, turned on the video and turned on the lights, I put my high-hat up sideways, and I just played the kit as it was. And one, two, three, Quadrophenia, go. <\/p>\n We just ran through it one time, start-to-finish. And about three songs in, I think, my buddy, who drove me down, he says that he started seeing facial expressions change from worry to like, \u201cHmm, we might be able to get through this fucking thing.\u201d And then by the end, he said everyone was smiling and starting to think, \u201cHoly crap. Let\u2019s go do the show.\u201d We finished and Pete said, \u201cAlright, we\u2019re on.\u201d I went back stage. Maybe forty minutes later, maybe an hour, and their like, \u201cLet\u2019s go play Quadrophenia,” and we did it.<\/p>\n Scott played six shows with The Who while Zak Starkey let himself heal. After that, Zak finished the U.S. tour.<\/em><\/p>\n Scott<\/strong>: For him to not be able to play, it\u2019s obviously got to be an excruciatingly painful thing. I mean, I\u2019ve had tendinitis my whole life, but it never gotten to the point where I can\u2019t play. So, for him not to want to do what he was born to do, it\u2019s got to be incredibly difficult, and I take that into consideration whenever I\u2019m feeling stoked about having any of this as an opportunity. It\u2019s at his misfortune. <\/p>\n Sander<\/strong>: Because drumming is so intrinsically physical, and because it\u2019s like any other kind of athletic effort, there\u2019s always a risk of injury. How do you manage that? <\/em><\/p>\n Scott<\/strong>: Not very well. I\u2019m the klutziest person in the world. I take pre-tour behavior very, very seriously. I used to do an inordinate amount of work-out. I\u2019d do jogging with small weights to build up a little bit of agility, a little bit of power; a resilience. But the older I get and the more punishment certain parts of my body takes, I have to be really careful not to over-do it, because I could end up in a situation like Zak, where it gets so problematic that I can\u2019t play. <\/p>\n The amount of intensity playing with The Who is peddle to the floor for almost three hours. For me, it is the most difficult drumming gig imaginable. Be careful what you wish for. No chill moment. When you come in Moonie, you come in and you go and go and go until he wants to stop. You can\u2019t just phone it in, you know? <\/p>\n But my problem has been, my whole career, it might be psychosomatic, I don\u2019t know if that\u2019s the right term but anybody who knows me knows I\u2019m the biggest klutz in the world. I always injure myself before a tour. Never once have I set out to do what I\u2019m considering a big tour, to thousands of people or lots at stake, Roger tour, many Roger tours, and I\u2019ll be super- careful. I\u2019ll be watching when I step off a curb or getting out of the bathtub, whatever it is I\u2019m always careful. <\/p>\n And right before I go on tour, I mean I nearly destroy myself every time without fail, and each time it happens, I\u2019m like, \u201cI did it again.\u201d I\u2019ll snap the tendon in my knee on the Tommy tour, like the day before the gear shift, I fell off a big case. It felt like I ripped my knee to pieces. And I couldn\u2019t stand for like a day, but for some reason when I got behind the kit, I\u2019m like, \u201cWell, that doesn\u2019t hurt. I can\u2019t walk out to the kit by myself, but get me behind the drums and I\u2019m fine.\u201d <\/p>\n Sander<\/strong>: Well, that\u2019s not going to happen this time. You\u2019re over that. <\/em><\/p>\n Scott<\/strong>: I think you\u2019re right, although last Thursday I was marking my drum kit, you know, you tape around so you know where to put things, and I was using a cutter, and I literally almost cut off the tip of my finger. It was just Pshshsh! Blood spraying everywhere, and I\u2019m like, \u201cAre you shitting me?\u201d I couldn\u2019t play full-bore for like a week. I\u2019m like, \u201cEvery time.\u201d And the whole time I was doing it I was like, \u201cAlright, this is a razor blade. Be careful. Aghgh! What? Every freaking time.\u201d <\/p>\n Sander<\/strong>: What are you doing between now and the time you actually set out on the road? <\/em><\/p>\n Scott<\/strong>: It doesn\u2019t make sense to most people. My family, a lot of my friends don\u2019t understand why I\u2019m not out and about, seeing shows, or meeting them to watch games, or whatever. Because it\u2019s sixteen hours a day, from the second I wake up, it\u2019s something related to what you\u2019re talking about. The drum kit is much more expansive now, so designing a drum kit that makes it easy to play… Zak\u2019s was huge and very difficult to play. But to produce a sound similar to Moonie and Zak, you can\u2019t with three drums. You have a much bigger kit. Bigger cymbals, more variables. <\/p>\n When I played Zak\u2019s kit, it was really painful. I know why he has such tendon problems; because he\u2019s having to over-extend every time he hits, thousand and thousands of times. After I played his kit for a few nights, back at the hotel, \u201cOuch, man, that hurts.\u201d I was much more sore. <\/p>\n Tweaking a bigger drum kit into a smaller space becomes a matter of millimeters. I mean everything is missing the other thing, literally, by nano-increments. You move something just a hair and everything feels much better, or a hair the other way. You\u2019re dropping sticks every time you go around the kit. So every day I\u2019m playing Quadrophenia from start to finish on this kit, and every day I\u2019m tweaking something else. <\/p>\n I\u2019ve built drums for this. I\u2019ve made bigger floor toms. I\u2019ve designed cases. It\u2019s a massive, massive amount of work, in addition to studying Quadrophenia inside and out, live or in-studio versions, and then getting away from it so you\u2019re not memorizing things but you are memorizing vibes. You write out all the equations and then you erase them all, so you\u2019re a blank slate but you know the foundation of where it’s going to go. <\/p>\n Speaking as a drummer with so many things to hit, you still want to feel fluid and you want it to feel very organic. Where I\u2019m used to playing four drums \u2014 I weaned myself off the Kiss kit 20, 30 years ago – down to the three drums because I\u2019m like, \u201cWell, less is more.\u201d You want to be able to play anything on just three drums. Now I\u2019m like, \u201cMore is more.\u201d I\u2019ve got to go back to those days. But you don\u2019t want to hurt yourself. I\u2019m a 46 year-old guy. I can\u2019t play like I\u2019m sixteen anymore. So that\u2019s exactly what I\u2019m doing when this interview is done. I\u2019m going to go to the hardware store and put new lugs on the drum, put in a different floor tom, replace it with a new one, play Quadrophenia all night, ice down, sleep, do it again. That\u2019s been my life for two months. <\/p>\n Sander<\/strong>: You played those six shows with the Who, and you\u2019ve been playing with Roger for four or five years, so you have a definite rapport and relationship with him, and have a definite familiarity with a lot of the material. When you\u2019re talking about that rapport that you\u2019re striving to create with Pete, when do you know? When do you know that that\u2019s there? When do you feel that? When do you step back and go, \u201cOh. Okay.\u201d Is that something that is so intangible or is that something that you\u2019re really aware of? <\/em><\/p>\n Scott<\/strong>: Oh, I\u2019m definitely sensitive to it, striving for it, and totally cognizant of the fact that I don\u2019t expect it. Aim for it but, you know. When Zak came back, he couldn\u2019t have been sweeter to me. I got to sit at caterings and chat with him for like an hour. He\u2019s so wonderful, not to mention he\u2019s one of my heroes, and I was lucky enough to sit in his chair. And then he\u2019s nice to me after. He could\u2019ve been a dick, and I would\u2019ve been, \u201cWhatever,\u201d you know? He\u2019s my hero. Who cares? But he was great. <\/p>\n I got to ask him\u2014I was like, \u201cI got to really appreciate, from the inside, what it\u2019s like to try and play off Pete, and to try and get that back- and-forth going. How long into playing with him was it before you felt comfortable with that?\u201d He was like, \u201cOh, it was like five years.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cFive years?\u201d He was like, \u201cOh, yeah, at least.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cI\u2019m only on my sixth gig.\u201d I mean I\u2019m saying this to myself. I said, \u201cShit, I don\u2019t feel so bad for not being able to emulate what you\u2019ve got in one night. Even if you\u2019re just being nice and it took you one year, you just made me feel so much better about not really being able to be, you know, fill shoes like that so quickly. I think I\u2019m being a little hard on myself. Or are you just being super, super nice?\u201d <\/p>\n With playing off Pete, the first couple shows I played, the very first show, he was super-complimentary. The vibe was we saved the show. He couldn\u2019t have been nicer to me on stage. He made me sound like the greatest guy in the world. As shows went on that disappeared and we were just playing, you know? <\/p>\n I didn\u2019t get much interaction or reaction from him, so I asked his guys who\u2019ve been with him forever, literally since the sixties. And they\u2019re like, \u201cHow are you feeling about stuff?\u201d And I\u2019m like, \u201cI don\u2019t know how to feel. Is Pete bummed or is he… Do you get a vibe?\u201d He\u2019s like, \u201cDid he throw his guitar at you?\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cNo.\u201d They\u2019re like, \u201cThen he\u2019s fine.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cWhat do you mean?\u201d He\u2019s like, \u201cWe\u2019re serous. If he has a problem with you, you\u2019ll know it. There is no gray area. He will let you know. He\u2019s showing up to sound check. He\u2019s in a good space. It\u2019s not like there aren\u2019t mistakes, but whatever. Just go up and have a good time.\u201d And I\u2019m like, \u201cOkay.\u201d That made it so much nicer and easier. It made it easier to not stress on hitting the bull\u2019s eye every night. You aim for the stars and you miss sometimes. <\/p>\n Sander<\/strong>: And like Rich Mouser said, don\u2019t think so much. Just be there. Be present. <\/p>\n <\/em>Scott<\/strong>: Absolutely. I have to remind myself of that every day.\u00a0<\/p>\n —<\/p>\n Read more: Scott Devours: From Here To The Who –\u00a0Part 1.<\/em><\/em><\/em><\/em><\/a><\/p>\n![\"ScottDevours-TheWho-02-sm\"](\"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/ScottDevours-TheWho-02-sm.jpg\")
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