{"id":5155,"date":"2011-06-08T19:37:00","date_gmt":"2011-06-08T19:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lbpost.com\/articles\/life\/monte-vista-speaks-of-lovingkindness\/"},"modified":"2011-06-08T19:37:00","modified_gmt":"2011-06-08T19:37:00","slug":"monte-vista-speaks-of-lovingkindness","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/hi-lo\/monte-vista-speaks-of-lovingkindness","title":{"rendered":"Monte Vista Speaks of Lovingkindness"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\"  src=\"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/m_image1307561634-13248.jpg\" style=\"width: 660px; margin-top: 2px; margin-right: 2px; margin-bottom: 2px; margin-left: 2px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: black; border-right-color: black; border-bottom-color: black; border-left-color: black; \" alt=\"\"><em>Tom Holland, a.k.a. Monte Vista<\/em><br \/><span>&nbsp;<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; \"><strong><meta charset=\"utf-8\"><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; font-weight: normal; \"><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; \"><strong>4:15pm |&nbsp;<\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; \">Tom Holland, a.k.a. Monte Vista, was a staple of the Long Beach music scene in the late &#8217;80s early &#8217;90s until he was undone by steady employment, adult responsibilities and karaoke. Following is an interview with the man, the legend, the mountain.<\/span><\/span><\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>Daniel deBoom: <\/strong><em>Have you always wanted to be a musician?<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>Tom Holland:<\/strong> Yeah, I guess I always loved music, but one moment I remember was in elementary school, we had a talent contest and I lip-synced to \u201cAmerican Pie.\u201d<\/span><br \/><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB: <\/strong><em>The whole thing? That song goes on forever.<\/em><\/span><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH:<\/strong> Yeah, and &#8230; people picked on me a lot in elementary school, and everybody gave me a&nbsp;standing ovation at the end of it and I thought, \u201cWOW, this is cool!\u201d I found out only later&nbsp;that they were just f**king with me, but for that moment I was like \u201cYeah, I want to be a&nbsp;musician!\u201d<\/span><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB: <\/strong><em>You have a wide range of musical influences as is evident in your stage performances.&nbsp;<\/em><em>Is there a period or style of music that takes precedence above all others for you?<\/em><\/span><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH: <\/strong>No. Nah, I love all music, all different styles of music. What we started off doing was&nbsp;playing mellow love tunes from the &#8217;70s, but then we branched out and started doing&nbsp;lounge music because no one else was doing that. Basically, we were a punk band that&nbsp;wanted to bother people and punk was pass\u00e9 at that point, it was dead, and we found that&nbsp;was a good way to annoy people.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB:<\/strong> <em>What year was it?<\/em><\/span><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH: <\/strong>In \u201985 with a band called the Hive Give Touch that Greg Gardner, our guitar player, had&nbsp;formed. They were an industrial noise band and I joined the group and we started doing the&nbsp;theme from &#8220;Love Story.&#8221;<\/span><em><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><\/em><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><em><strong>DdB:<\/strong> (laughing) So people were coming to hear industrial noise and they got the theme from&nbsp;<\/em><em>Love Story?<\/em><\/span><br \/><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH:<\/strong> (laughing as well) Yeah \u2026 that\u2019s where that whole concept started breeding.<\/span><br \/><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB: <\/strong><em>And that\u2019s when you started pissing people off for the first time?<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH:<\/strong> Yeah, but it was mainly our friends. Later on we would set up at concerts where we\u2019d be&nbsp;opening for friends&#8217; bands, and people were unsuspecting victims to our treachery.<\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB:<\/strong> <em>Lovingkindness collected bad reviews like Elvis and the Beatles collected gold records.&nbsp;<\/em><em>I mean, in your fliers and stuff you guys use all the bad reviews. Were those serious or \u2026 ?<\/em><\/span><br \/><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH:<\/strong> No, those are seriously bad reviews.Yyou know [Tim] Grobaty does them somewhat in jest, but&nbsp;I\u2019m sure he means it.<\/span><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB:<\/strong> <em>Like the one in <\/em>Ben Is Dead <em>magazine, where Darby described you as, \u201cThe worst band&nbsp;<\/em><em>I have ever seen in my whole entire life. God, it was scary!\u201d<\/em><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH: <\/strong>Yeah, the <em>Ben is Dead<\/em>, completely real. I knew she was talking about us because we&nbsp;were the only band playing in the lounge that night, and I confirmed it with her later.<\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB:<\/strong> <em>So, would you describe Lovingkindness as lounge punk?<\/em><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH:<\/strong> I would call it garage lounge, or I would say we\u2019re a garage band but we play lounge&nbsp;music very poorly, like a garage band would.<\/span><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB: <\/strong><em>So there wasn\u2019t really anything like you back then, right?<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH: <\/strong>Well, no, not for that scene, the scene we played in, but of course there was like \u2026. The&nbsp;early influences for me were Tony Clifton, of course, the Andy Kaufman character. There&nbsp;was this guy on &#8220;Fernwood 2 Night&#8221; called Tony Rolletti that was a bad lounge singer that&nbsp;always had to adjust his toupee while he was singing and was just horrible. And another&nbsp;influence was Tom Monroe from SCTV that did lounge versions of &#8220;Turning Japanese,&#8221; and we&nbsp;ended up doing some of that. We would, like, do Black Flag covers in a lounge style.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB: <\/strong><em>So people must have liked you at the same time, right? I mean, your pissing people off;&nbsp;<\/em><em>there must have been some fans.<\/em><\/span><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH: <\/strong>There are some people that do like us. At certain times I can sing adequately, but people&nbsp;enjoy what we did, you know, it was funny. It\u2019s a humorous thing, so of course people got&nbsp;into that aspect of it. Now, did people get into it because they loved how we played the&nbsp;music? I really don\u2019t know. I would hope, somehow, that that could be true, but I kinda doubt&nbsp;it. (laughing)<\/span><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB:<\/strong> <em>Other bands appreciated you, though?<\/em><\/span><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH:<\/strong> At that time we were one of the Vandals&#8217; favorite bands. Jazz Butcher was a big fan of&nbsp;ours back then. If you were in the know, you dug it.<\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB: <\/strong><em>What does Lovingkindness mean?<\/em><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH: <\/strong>Russell Ripple, our bass player, got it from the Bible. We were looking for a name and&nbsp;I picked a cheesy name like The Bamboozlers, which was, like, really stupid. Russell came&nbsp;up with, \u201cHey I\u2019m some computer programmer nerd and this word is used the most in the Bible: lovingkindness,&#8221; and then I was like, &#8220;You know, that fits with us doing the mellow &#8217;70s Bread,&#8221; that kind of thing. So yeah Lovingkindness. We\u2019re loving and we\u2019re kind; our&nbsp;audience is loving kindness when we perform; kill them with loving kindness.<\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB:<\/strong> <em>Is this when you started calling yourself Monte Vista?<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH:<\/strong> No, the first singer for Lovingkindness, which was me, was Che Walter Butterworth.&nbsp;And I wore, like, golfing hats and sweaters, sort of like Bing Crosby, and had a pipe. Sort of a&nbsp;mellow, nervous cat. And I really didn\u2019t have the whole smarmy lounge thing down in the&nbsp;beginning. But then after maybe six months of doing it, Monte Vista was born. It was a street.&nbsp;I used to go camping out in Joshua Tree and there was a street out there called Monte Vista,&nbsp;which would translate to Mountain View. It\u2019s a great fat joke on me so you know, Monte&nbsp;Vista, that\u2019s a great name!<\/span><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB:<\/strong> <em>So, when did you guys stop performing? Did bar karaoke kill your gimmick?<\/em><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH: <\/strong>What happened was, yeah karaoke came around. I remember playing at the Long Beach&nbsp;Museum of Art at an art fair where we were extremely hungover and it was, like, one of&nbsp;our worst shows ever, and I remember these two old ladies walking past me going, \u201cI can\u2019t&nbsp;believe they hired karaoke for this art fair,\u201d and a light went off, just going, &#8220;Oh man, karaoke&nbsp;killed the Lovingkindness. You can go see a drunk guy performing standards in any bar now&nbsp;in any town!&#8221;<\/span><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB:<\/strong> <em>Did you guys ever open for anybody big?<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH:<\/strong> Uh, well, John Waters you know about, we got to open for him twice. The second time&nbsp;we got to open for him we actually had two bands. The other band was Chuck: A Tribute to&nbsp;Charles Manson, where we did Charlie Manson covers. He [Waters] wasn\u2019t too happy with&nbsp;that because he was trying to get Leslie Van Houton out on parole and he was concerned&nbsp;that the press was going to be there. Luckily no press was going to be there, at that show.&nbsp;But yeah that, the Dickies. We almost caused a riot at the Dickies show and got covered in&nbsp;spit. I was trying to hide behind the drum kit but the drummer kept on pushing me away&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\">saying, &#8220;They\u2019re aiming at you, get away from me!\u201d Beer bottles are breaking all around.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB:<\/strong> <em>What do the Carpenters and Exene Cervenka have in common with Monte Vista?<\/em><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH:<\/strong> Well, I\u2019ve had an unfortunate accident with them. At one point I was working at Middle&nbsp;Earth Records and Richard Carpenter was coming in, so I opened the door for him and he&nbsp;puts his kid right in front of the door so I knocked over his kid. I\u2019m sorry, Richard, but why&nbsp;are you putting your kid right in front of the door? And then Exene, she\u2019s coming to play at&nbsp;Bogart\u2019s and I open the door for her; both these doors you can\u2019t see down below. I open the&nbsp;door and boom, knocked her kid down. She screams at me, \u201cYou knocked my kid down you&nbsp;idiot!\u201d What can I do?<\/span><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB:<\/strong><em> Have you stopped opening doors for people?<\/em><\/span><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH:<\/strong> Never! I will never stop opening doors! Get your kid away from the front of door!<\/span><br \/><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB:<\/strong> <em>The last time you were at diPiazza\u2019s you performed the entire soundtrack to Scorpio&nbsp;<\/em><em>Rising while the film played on a screen in the background. What are you doing this time?<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH:<\/strong> We\u2019re going back to our lounge roots and covering the greatest hits of the American&nbsp;songbook like &#8220;MacArthur Park&#8221; and &#8220;Taxi&#8221; by Harry Chapin, &#8220;On a Clear Day,&#8221; that kind of thing.&nbsp;Songs that used to be on KMPC back in the early &#8217;80s. They called that &#8220;easy listening.&#8221; Now&nbsp;people confuse beautiful music with easy listening, but yeah, there was a format called easy&nbsp;listening.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB:<\/strong> <em>So, do you still incite, or does the crowd still get upset seeing you, or did that change?<\/em><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH:<\/strong> No, It\u2019s usually shock, you know, people will be there with like, \u201cWhat is this? I don\u2019t&nbsp;understand why they\u2019re doing this. Who are they, why do they suck so much? Why am I&nbsp;having to see this?\u201d So a lot of our friends come. But mainly right now we\u2019re all old and the&nbsp;irony has worn off. When we started, it was ironic for these kids to be playing lounge music.&nbsp;Unfortunately, time has taken its toll and now I am that old man playing lounge music. I&nbsp;turned into what we were making fun of. So, that\u2019s where that is. The irony is gone, our&nbsp;friends come to see us play and remember the good times. And you never know what will&nbsp;happen. I\u2019m planning on finishing the show with &#8220;You Light Up My Life&#8221; on helium, so who&nbsp;knows what could happen. It could be my last show ever.<\/span><br \/><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><\/strong><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>DdB:<\/strong> <em>Joe Brooks, who wrote that song, just killed himself. Are you planning suicide on&nbsp;<\/em><em>stage?<\/em><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><strong>TH: <\/strong>Well, I have a plastic bag, I have a helium tank and I\u2019m going to sing the song, so maybe&nbsp;I will be lucky in my Houdini-like thing and come out of this okay, or maybe there will be no&nbsp;encore.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/>&#8212;<\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><em>Lovingkindness plays at diPiazza&#8217;s on Saturday, June 11, at 10:30 p.m. diPiazza&#8217;s is located at 5205 E. Pacific Coast Highway.<\/em><\/span><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\"><br \/><\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';\">For more information,&nbsp;<a><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/event.php?eid=197577100264564\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">click here<\/a>.&nbsp;<\/span><br \/><em><br \/><span>&nbsp;<\/span>Photos by Daniel DeBoom<\/em><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\"  src=\"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/m_image1307561643-77611.jpg\" style=\"margin-top: 2px; margin-right: 2px; margin-bottom: 2px; margin-left: 2px; width: 660px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: black; border-right-color: black; border-bottom-color: black; border-left-color: black; \" alt=\"\"><em>Tom Holland, a.k.a. 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