{"id":5183,"date":"2011-05-18T07:35:00","date_gmt":"2011-05-18T07:35:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lbpost.com\/articles\/life\/opinion-what-exactly-is-the-gay-community-proud-of\/"},"modified":"2011-05-18T07:35:00","modified_gmt":"2011-05-18T07:35:00","slug":"opinion-what-exactly-is-the-gay-community-proud-of","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/hi-lo\/opinion-what-exactly-is-the-gay-community-proud-of","title":{"rendered":"OPINION: &#8220;What Exactly Is the Gay Community &#8216;Proud&#8217; Of?&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\"><strong>5:01am | <\/strong>The title of this piece is not mine \u2014 hence the quotation marks \u2014 but is taken from a<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">comment made by &#8220;Dave&#8221; in response to the post about this month&#8217;s print edition of the Long Beach Post, which has a cover story I wrote called &#8220;Gay Long Beach: A Work in Progress.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">Dave&#8217;s reference is, of course, to the LGBT Pride Parade occurring Sunday. And since Dave \u2014 who calls himself &#8220;a political liberal and an atheist[,] so don&#8217;t start yelling at me for my outdated [V]ictorian morals&#8221; \u2014 says he&#8217;s &#8220;not being sarcastic&#8221; and really &#8220;want[s] to know,&#8221; I thought I&#8217;d take a shot, one straight-atheist-liberal to another.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">The subtext of your question, Dave, is: <\/span><em style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">Why should someone be proud of one&#8217;s sexual preference \u2014 or skin color, gender, etc.?<\/em><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\"> And I hear you. These things are not achievements, not something like winning an Olympic medal or graduating <\/span><em style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">summa cum laude<\/em><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">. Being gay is not something you do. And so what&#8217;s to be proud of? Gays didn&#8217;t do anything; they didn&#8217;t <\/span><em style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">achieve <\/em><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">gayness.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">Then again, being American is not something you do, either. But say you&#8217;re not proud to be an American, and most Americans look at you like you&#8217;re a traitor. So don&#8217;t pretend you&#8217;re puzzled by people&#8217;s pride in simply <\/span><em style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\"><span>being<\/span><\/em><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">, because in these United States that sort of pride is the status quo.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">But that&#8217;s not really what &#8220;gay pride&#8221; is all about. What it&#8217;s really about is that for pretty much the entirety of recorded history \u2014 right&nbsp; up to 2011 and beyond \u2014 in pretty much every place in the world, individuals who are attracted to others of their same gender have been shamed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">(That&#8217;s not quite right: shaming is the <\/span><em style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">least <\/em><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">of it. They&#8217;ve been beaten and tortured and murdered. But we don&#8217;t even need to go there to make the point. We&#8217;ll stick with &#8220;shamed.&#8221;)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">If you were shamed for a part of your very identity \u2014 especially if it&#8217;s a part that you did not self-determine \u2014 what would you do? Would you be cowed by the shaming and emotionally castrate yourself? Personally, I would hope that this is exactly what you would <em>not<\/em> do.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">So let&#8217;s say you personify my hope, and society&#8217;s shaming does not cow you. Even so, it probably could not but affect you. How? An understandable reaction would be to rebel against it, to reject it, to go to the opposite pole. Society tells you to be ashamed? Screw that! You&#8217;re not gonna be ashamed of being [fill-in-the-blank] \u2014 you&#8217;re <\/span><em style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">proud <\/em><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">of it!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">In 1968, James Brown encapsulated this type of reaction \u2014 in his case, to the shaming (and much worse) done to the black community by white society \u2014 in one of his classic songs: &#8220;Say it loud: I&#8217;m black and I&#8217;m proud!&#8221; Today you can hear the gay community&#8217;s similar reaction to the shaming (etc.) still being suffered at the hands of straight society (such as by way of Proposition 8 \u2014 but we&#8217;ll get to your question about gay marriage in a sec) in chants like, &#8220;We&#8217;re here, we&#8217;re queer \u2014 get used to it!&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">No doubt there are members of the LGBT community who could have answered your question with more experience and eloquence than I. Nonetheless, I figured I&#8217;d walk you through why, even from the outside, the question of gay pride is not so mystifying.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">Dave goes on to ask: &#8220;Why is it a sin (as suggested in the Post article) to have voted for Prop 8? \u2026 I just don&#8217;t understand all of the fuss over trying to re-define the word &#8216;marriage.&#8217; Why not simply ask for a law that gives gay couples all of the rights as married couples[?]&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">While again admitting that I&#8217;m not the best person to explain this, the answer to this one is also straightforward enough that perhaps I won&#8217;t screw it up too badly.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">First of all, Dave, your premise is flawed. The gay-marriage issue is <\/span><em style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">not <\/em><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">about redefining the word; it&#8217;s about stopping government from treating individuals differently depending on whether the person with whom they wish to join in romantic union is of the same or the opposite gender.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">And that&#8217;s exactly what our government does. By being in the marriage business (and let&#8217;s not kid ourselves: in our society, governmental recognition of romantic unions carries <\/span><em style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">far <\/em><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">more practical weight than does that of any religious sect) and withholding marriage from gay couples, the government is denying equal legal treatment to the LGBT community.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">Dave, when you say, &#8220;It seems to me that the fight ought to be focused on rights rather than on what word to use,&#8221; both I and the LGBT community couldn&#8217;t agree with you more. In fact, that&#8217;s <em>exactly<\/em> what the fight is about. It&#8217;s the <\/span><em style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">only <\/em><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">thing that the fight is about. We don&#8217;t care whether (e.g.) the Pope sanctifies same-sex unions as &#8220;marriages&#8221;; we ask only that our government stop discriminating against them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">In other words, if marriage did not have the force of law, the gay-marriage issue would be a non-issue. But marriage <\/span><em style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">does <\/em><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">have the force of law. Maybe it shouldn&#8217;t, but that ship has sailed. And since it does, equal treatment under the law must be made to mean <\/span><em style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">equal treatment under the law<\/em><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">, not &#8220;Group A gets designation M and the rights that go with it, but Group B does not.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">Dave, whether or not Long Beach is gayer than you think, they&#8217;re here (and always have been), they&#8217;re damn well not going to act ashamed, and they demand equal rights. And that&#8217;s just the way it should be.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Trebuchet MS;\">If there&#8217;s a catchy slogan that links these points together, I haven&#8217;t heard it. 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