{"id":5602,"date":"2010-03-12T10:58:00","date_gmt":"2010-03-12T10:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lbpost.com\/articles\/life\/the-verbs-of-art-a-conversation-with-eric-booth\/"},"modified":"2010-03-12T10:58:00","modified_gmt":"2010-03-12T10:58:00","slug":"the-verbs-of-art-a-conversation-with-eric-booth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/hi-lo\/the-verbs-of-art-a-conversation-with-eric-booth","title":{"rendered":"The Verbs of Art: A Conversation With Eric Booth"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>9:15am |<\/strong> Eric Booth will be the keynote speaker at the <a href=\"http:\/\/artseducationsummit.eventbrite.com\/\" target=\"blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Arts Education Summit<\/a>, taking place on   Saturday, March 27th at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jdvhotels.com\/hotels\/losangeles\/maya\" target=\"blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Hotel Maya<\/a>. Organized by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.artslb.org\" target=\"blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Arts Council for   Long Beach<\/a>, the Summit features four break-out   sessions, one for parents, one for administrators, and two   for teachers.  <\/p>\n<p> Booth has had multiple career paths. He&#8217;s performed as an   actor on and off Broadway. He&#8217;s taught at Stanford, NYU,   Julliard, The Kennedy Center, and Lincoln Center, in   addition to endlessly traveling across the country and   around the world as a highly respected guest lecturer.  <\/p>\n<p> He&#8217;s also written <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Eric-Booth\/e\/B000AP7TK4\/\" target=\"blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a number of books<\/a> about extensively   researched American culture trends, and has been quoted   extensively in the New York Times and The Wall Street   Journal, and has appeared as an expert on NBC News and CNN. <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Sander<\/strong>: <em>What do you see as the biggest   challenges and opportunities in arts education?<\/em>  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Eric<\/strong>: It is a transition time in arts   education. After a decade of slow erosion in NCLB [No Child   Left Behind], there is a sense that the old game must   change. Schools are not committed to arts education any   more than our culture is. So arts education needs to   illuminate its importance in new ways.  <\/p>\n<p> I understand Long Beach is something of an unusual setting   in that both the arts are more valued in the city than in   most cities and arts education has not lost as much ground   as elsewhere.  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Sander<\/strong>: <em>Well, it has been a struggle on   both counts, but we have made some headway as well.<\/em>  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Eric<\/strong>: I saw that a new city council plan   that is quite pro arts was recently passed.  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Sander<\/strong>: <em>For arts education, perhaps the   most significant change was the adoption of the Cultural   Master Plan into the City&#8217;s overarching 2030 Plan. Having   that community-developed vision in place will help shape   all future decisions. Still, nobody is sure how that will   actually work.<\/em>  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Eric<\/strong>: That is why the Summit seems timely   to me. One of the things the field has learned is that arts   ed doesn&#8217;t thrive in a city that does not value the   arts&#8211;they are not separate. A city with an arts vision   cannot realize it, even with a long range vision as in   2030, without a robust and sustainable arts education   commitment.  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Sander<\/strong>: <em>Have you worked with Cities   that have been successful in establishing this overarching   vision and, if so, what kinds of results were realized?<\/em>  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Eric<\/strong>: There are few cities that have   longitudinal data to this effect. More recent efforts are   underway in Dallas in particular, which is following a   &#8220;creativity&#8221; banner but has coordinated\/bundled the   in-school, after-school, and larger arts policy issues.   Other cities with a good reputation for the beginnings of   this kind of coordination are Providence RI, Philadelphia   (is trying), and Chicago.  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Sander<\/strong>: <em>So, have results emerged from   these efforts?<\/em>  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Eric<\/strong>: The results are so disparate that   there is little cause and effect data to build upon that is   new. Dallas is full of promise and early data, but it is   all in the last couple of years, so it can&#8217;t be relied upon   yet. Many major cities seem to be addressing the deficits   around these issues&#8211;the LACK of coordination,   funding-efficiency thinking, and larger vision&#8211;but few   have gathered action plans beyond the planning phase. But   the trend is the realization of the problem and the   beginning of addressing it through multiple institutions   and not silo by silo.  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Sander<\/strong>: <em>How about outside the U.S.? Are   there models we should be exploring, or adopting, here?<\/em>  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Eric<\/strong>: Big yes. The lead countries in my   view are Scotland and Finland. Scotland has a national   creativity agenda, and a brand new national curriculum, and   are adopting a &#8220;creativity across the curriculum&#8221; policy to   realize their educational, cultural, and citizenship goals.  <\/p>\n<p> Finland has a deeply embedded conviction to schooling in   the arts, to learn how make art, AND to arts integration.   As much as 80% of a Finnish kids school day is spent   involved in the arts as they are actively involved in   teaching every subject  <\/p>\n<p> <strong><img decoding=\"async\"  alt=\"\" style=\"border: 0px solid black; margin: 2px;\" src=\"images\/archive\/s_image1268402680-11158.jpg\" align=\"right\">Sander<\/strong>: <em>Well, this is a subject I have   great personal interest in. I&#8217;ve often wondered why school   districts do not use a &#8216;unified&#8217; curriculum, one that   integrates each subject into all the others in a   synergistic way. Can you speak to that?<\/em>  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Eric<\/strong>: You are so right. Your sense is the   natural way people learn and the way learning research   tells us learners function at their best. The arts happen   to be particularly effective as catalyst and glue for   learning. (I have MUCH to say about why.) I think U.S.   schooling silos subjects for old traditional reasons of   institutional convenience, for old factory model   institutional organization, and because of   counter-productive turf and identity wars.  <\/p>\n<p> This is a huge school reform issue, and I see U.S. schools   as resistant to reform. They evolve but do not respond to   pressure. I don&#8217;t fight the school reform battle anymore&#8211;I   have seen too many tiny ups and downs that I thought were   change, and now I see the change is evolutionary not   revolutionary. The arts will never serve the role in   schools they could, should, and organically do because the   entrenchements are too great, and America&#8217;s affinity for   the arts too weak, and too much misunderstanding links the   arts with high arts and elitism when they are so much more.  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Sander<\/strong>: <em>This is the challenge for us,   now. How is it that we bring a greater awareness of   relevence to our elected leaders, and to the public?<\/em>  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Eric<\/strong>: This is the great advocacy question,   and we have to admit we have not succeeded to date. I think   we misunderstand both advocacy and art. Let me redefine   both. Advocacy is not changing what people think, it is   changing what people do. And people base their actions not   on what they think but on what they believe. And it is a   very different challenge to change what someone believes.   It requires a lot of listening, a lot of dialogue, a lot of   understanding, and not so much &#8220;convincing.&#8221;  <\/p>\n<p> Yes, we need data and research, but as much we need them to   see and feel and understand how arts learning provides the   results they believe in. I define art not by its nouns as   is common&#8211;the art WORKS, the special buildings and things   we call art&#8211;but by its verbs. I think the verbs of art   unite people, while the nouns tend to separate. The verbs   of art are things we ALL engage in when we are functioning   at our highest, most invested, level.  <\/p>\n<p> We used to refer to the art of bricklaying, and it   signified that ANY endeavor raised to its highest level of   expression becomes the work of art. Using that frame,   artistry is high performance and it uses skills everyone   places in high priority for youth: The capacity to attend   well, to make meaningful connections, to respond with   personal voice, to inquire well, to develop good   questioning skiills, to engage in making things you care   about, to work in full collaboration with others, and so   on. <\/p>\n<p> This is the verb-definition of art that I find everyone   believes in, but the default definition of art by artistic   media thwarts the ways the arts can serve our kids and   cities.  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Sander<\/strong>: <em>I&#8217;ve seen, first hand, that if   you ask kids to share what they&#8217;re interested in, they&#8217;ll   write for an hour, or paint, or sing, or whatever. If you   ask every kid to paint the same thing, some will become   engaged and others won&#8217;t. Is that what you&#8217;re talking   about?<\/em>  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Eric<\/strong>: That is a sure sign of it. It is a   different motivation, intrinsic motivation, in which the   arts bloom, and is one of the few areas of school life   where kids are invited to engage with their intrinsic   motivation and not just for extrinsic reasons. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.danpink.com\/\" target=\"blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dan Pink<\/a>&#8216;s   new book <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Mo%0A%0Ativates\/dp\/1594488843\/\" target=\"blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Drive<\/a> is a   powerful statement of this. My working definition of art is   make stuff you care about.  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Sander<\/strong>: <em>What about your own creative   process?<\/em>  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Eric<\/strong>: After years as a NY actor and   theater person, I expanded my curiosity to various   media&#8211;some artistic and some not. I started a business   which wasn&#8217;t the least bit artsy, but I found the same   satisfactions, the same parts of my creative self being   applied. When I am making something I care about now, I   find I do go through the stages that researchers cite, and   in a kind of jumble of idea generation, refinement, choice,   gestation, bursts of hands-on construction, etc. But it   applies to consulting work, writing, teaching in new ways,   even homemaking projects and gardening. As well as to   poetry writing or working on a play.  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Sander<\/strong>: <em>That, for me, is the joy of   being an artist. It is a way of living, of seeing the   world, and engaging with it.<\/em>  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Eric<\/strong>: Yep. The verbs are where it lives   and it spills apart from the task and media to the way you   experience the day, the world, life. It is a way of life,   and it is a child&#8217;s human birthright to know this and have   it available, and we are unconscionable in our ignoring   this for every kid. <\/p>\n<p> Indeed, I think our child-rearing is almost diabolical in   squelching these very capacities, natural and human as they   are. Usually for commercial intent.  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Sander<\/strong>: <em>Can you explain what you mean   by &#8216;commercial intent&#8217;?<\/em>  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Eric<\/strong>: The creative capacities, the skills   of imagination, ideational fluency, development of craft,   free play, etc, are colonized by selling toys and online   activity that produces high stimulation and instant   gratification, and sometimes quite developed interest, but   squelch the essential verbs of artistic-birthright we were   just discussing.  <\/p>\n<p> A kid is not supported to develop her intrinsic motivation   and personal voice, but to buy stuff that she finds   interesting. There is much of what psychologists call &#8220;slow   processing&#8221; in the brain that gets underdeveloped by the   high stimulation of other parts of the brain. Slow   processing includes reflective capacity, moral development,   emotional maturity, choice and consequence consideration,   etc.   <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Sander<\/strong>: <em>Going back to what you were   saying earlier about belief, these things seem like   qualities everyone would be interested in developing in   their children. <\/em>   <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Eric<\/strong>: You&#8217;d think so. But when it comes   down to institutional choices, they seem soft, and get   peripheral. Our culture says that is the work of families   and social organizations, not schools. They see schools as   training young people for the workplace. I don&#8217;t happen to   agree with that priority, but even if it were a good   priority, we are training kids for a workplace that is long   gone. So we are failing there too. Easy to say you believe   in those values for kids, hard to take action on that in   the face of norms, traditions and doubts. We get relegated   to the periphery where the arts have launguished.  <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Sander<\/strong>: <em>Is the path forward clear? Do   you see a process that, when undertaken, will result in a   changed outlook about these issues?<\/em>   <\/p>\n<p> <strong>Eric<\/strong>: It is going to be a soft answer, I   fear. The ONLY answer is a claified goal or vision that is   shared, owned, and committed to by multiple stakeholders.   And then ongoing dialogue with constant experimentation and   course correction to find this path. It is always a LOCAL   path, there is no transportable model. The process of   illuminating a shared vision, and then finding a way to   move toward it IS the solution, the only solution.  <\/p>\n<p> I have worked on such projects in small ways and in a few   bigger projects, and it does work. But the territory is   uncharted, and the process must be as authentic and   wholehearted, human, patient and determined as the result   they envision. <\/p>\n<p> The example of El Sistema in Venezuela is inspiring to me.   It has taken 35 years. But 300,000 of the very poorest   kids, living in the more dangerous at-risk circumstances,   have had their lives transformed by intensive after school   arts learning. A whole generation. And the process models   the product&#8211;a country that loves its poorest kids deeply   and well, and provides them with the artistic satisfaction,   voice and sense of personal value that the arts deliver so   powerfully when taught well.  <\/p>\n<p> &#8212; <\/p>\n<p> <em>Visit the Arts Council for Long Beach <a href=\"http:\/\/www.artslb.org\" target=\"blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">website<\/a> for   more information about this and other events.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Eric Booth, renowned cultural researcher, educator, and arts education expert is the keynote speaker, and leader of the &#8216;Learning in the Arts&#8217; break-out session, of the Arts Education Summit, convened by Arts Council for Long Beach, and taking place on Saturday, March 27th, from 9 AM &#8211; 2:30 PM at the Hotel Maya.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"newspack_sponsor_sponsorship_scope":"","newspack_sponsor_native_byline_display":"inherit","newspack_sponsor_native_category_display":"inherit","newspack_sponsor_underwriter_style":"inherit","newspack_sponsor_underwriter_placement":"inherit","inline_featured_image":false,"newspack_ads_suppress_ads":false,"newspack_popups_has_disabled_popups":"","_EventAllDay":false,"_EventTimezone":"","_EventStartDate":"","_EventEndDate":"","_EventStartDateUTC":"","_EventEndDateUTC":"","_EventShowMap":false,"_EventShowMapLink":false,"_EventURL":"","_EventCost":"","_EventCostDescription":"","_EventCurrencySymbol":"","_EventCurrencyCode":"","_EventCurrencyPosition":"","_EventDateTimeSeparator":"","_EventTimeRangeSeparator":"","_EventOrganizerID":[],"_EventVenueID":[],"_OrganizerEmail":"","_OrganizerPhone":"","_OrganizerWebsite":"","_VenueAddress":"","_VenueCity":"","_VenueCountry":"","_VenueProvince":"","_VenueState":"","_VenueZip":"","_VenuePhone":"","_VenueURL":"","_VenueStateProvince":"","_VenueLat":"","_VenueLng":"","_VenueShowMap":false,"_VenueShowMapLink":false,"_":"","_author_alias":"","cap-aim":"","cap-description":"","cap-display_name":"","cap-first_name":"","cap-jabber":"","cap-last_name":"","cap-linked_account":"","cap-newspack_employer":"","cap-newspack_job_title":"","cap-newspack_phone_number":"","cap-newspack_role":"","cap-user_email":"","cap-user_login":"","cap-website":"","cap-yahooim":"","newspack_article_summary":"","newspack_email_html":"","newspack_email_type":"","newspack_featured_image_position":"","newspack_hide_page_title":"","newspack_hide_updated_date":false,"newspack_post_subtitle":"","newspack_show_share_buttons":"","newspack_sponsor_byline_prefix":"","newspack_sponsor_disclaimer_override":"","newspack_sponsor_flag_override":"","newspack_sponsor_only_direct":"","newspack_sponsor_url":"","newspack_article_summary_title":"Overview:","newspack_show_updated_date":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"newspack_spnsrs_tax":[],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-5602","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-hi-lo","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5602","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/7"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5602"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5602\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5602"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5602"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5602"},{"taxonomy":"newspack_spnsrs_tax","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/newspack_spnsrs_tax?post=5602"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/esd\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/coauthors?post=5602"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}