{"id":3564,"date":"2009-07-16T05:01:00","date_gmt":"2009-07-16T05:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lbpost.com\/articles\/sports\/couch-commentary-how-the-nfl-will-come-to-los-angeles\/"},"modified":"2009-07-16T05:01:00","modified_gmt":"2009-07-16T05:01:00","slug":"couch-commentary-how-the-nfl-will-come-to-los-angeles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/sports\/couch-commentary-how-the-nfl-will-come-to-los-angeles","title":{"rendered":"Couch Commentary: How The NFL Will Come To Los Angeles"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', helvetica, clean, sans-serif; \"><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; line-height: 15px; \"><img decoding=\"async\"  src=\"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/s_image1247545281-82232.jpg\" style=\"width: 310px; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: black; border-right-color: black; border-bottom-color: black; border-left-color: black; margin-top: 5px; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 5px; \" align=\"right\" alt=\"\"><\/span>Los Angeles is going to have a football team again\u2026I hope.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\"><strong>But not through league expansion.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">The NFL has the perfect number of teams&#8211;2 conferences with 4 divisions of 4 teams is too good to mess with.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>But the real reason is that another team, even when they pay an expansion fee, would not add enough cash to the league to justify the owners agreeing to split the TV revenue another way. <o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\"><strong>It\u2019s not coming from a city that recently built a stadium<\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Any stadium built within the last ten years was in one way or another publicly funded, and it would be near impossible for any of them to break their leases.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\"><strong>It\u2019s not coming from a team that is Top-10 in attendance<\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Over half the league has, or is going to have, a brand new stadium but many of the ones that are playing in older stadiums have too big a fan base to ever consider leaving.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Washington, Kansas City, Carolina, Cleveland, Buffalo, Baltimore, and Green Bay- all of them are Top-10 in attendance and they aren\u2019t moving to LA.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">So we\u2019re down to 8 possible candidates to move out here: the Vikings, the Dolphins, the Chargers, the Falcons, the Jaguars, the Rams, the Bucs, and the Raiders. <o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">For personal and financial reasons, Malcolm Glazer will not leave Tampa Bay, Arthur Blank will not leave Atlanta and (new Dolphins owner) Stephen Ross will not leave Miami.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>And suddenly we\u2019re down to our Top Five Candidates.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\"><strong>5. Jacksonville Jaguars<o:p><\/o:p><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Reasons they might move: Jacksonville is the smallest TV market in the NFL.<span style=\"mso-spacerun:yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Their local support leaves much to be desired\u2014the team has to cover 10,000 seats every game just to avoid local blackouts.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>The stadium is more than 50 years old, which by NFL standards might as well be the Jurassic period.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>There was a major renovation 15 years ago, which again by NFL standards still leaves it in the Cretaceous period.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>The stadium really is holding them back- they are in the bottom 5 in the NFL in terms of total revenue.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Reasons they won\u2019t move: Jacksonville allows the team to be run cheaply enough that despite being 28<sup>th<\/sup> in Total Revenue they are 11<sup>th<\/sup> in Operating Income.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>In other words they can turn a healthy profit by being cheap.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Say what you want about Los Angeles but being cheap is not in the equation.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>There is also the NFL issue of moving from Jacksonville to LA screwing up the division alignment.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>There is also an issue of ownership loyalty (owner Wayne Weaver went to U of Florida and lives in Jacksonville.)<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Conclusion: They haven\u2019t won a Championship, they don\u2019t have the long-time history in the area, they\u2019re the 3<sup>rd<\/sup> team in Florida, their TV audience is tiny, and their metro area is literally more than 11 million people smaller than the LA area.<span style=\"mso-spacerun:yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>But as long as the team figures out ways to maximize profit there is no urgency to leave.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>And while it would be nice to have Maurice Jones-Drew and Marcedes Lewis back in LA, frankly the Jags just aren\u2019t a big enough name to justify a lot of excitement.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\"><strong>4. Minnesota Vikings<o:p><\/o:p><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Reasons they might move:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>While Jacksonville is in the bottom-5 in revenue, the Vikings are dead last.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Minnesota had a choice between a new football stadium and a new baseball stadium and they choose the Twins.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>To put it another way, the city ain\u2019t big enough for the two of them.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Like the Jags, the Vikes were able to turn their low revenue into profits; in \u201908 they made about 18m (the Jags made 28) but the year before the Vikings lost about 18m.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Did Adrian Peterson really represent a 36m turnaround or was it just one of those fluky accounting things?<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Reasons they might not move: Zygi Wilf, the Vikings owner, is acting like it\u2019s a permanent turnaround by refusing to even meet with any LA stadium developers.<span style=\"mso-spacerun:yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>And unlike the Jags, the Vikings do have a long history in Minnesota.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>A move by them would also represent a nightmare for NFL schedulers and would probably trigger another realignment (the Rams go to the North, the Vikings to the West) but to break up the NFC North would be a crime.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Conclusion:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>The Vikings are the prime candidate to move- no reason for the owner to be loyal, no stadium coming, not great attendance, etc.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>But moving thousands of miles away is a start from scratch, and that is probably asking too much.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>There is no guarantee of enough immediate ticket sales to justify the expense of the move.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Suddenly the move looks like a bigger risk than simply going after a certain QB that would immediately boost team revenue.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>(However, the biggest reason this could work?<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>The last Minnesota team to move to LA: the Lakers.)<span style=\"mso-spacerun:yes\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><strong><o:p><\/o:p><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\"><strong>3. St Louis Rams<o:p><\/o:p><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Reasons they might move:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>They are for sale.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>And any potential buyer has to think an LA-move is a possibility.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>They also have the history in LA.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>The Vikings would be starting from scratch trying to win LA over, but there are enough broken-hearted LA Rams fans that they would be welcomed back.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>In fact the league could even wipe the St Louis years off the books and just have it be that the LA Rams took a hiatus like how we all agreed to ignore Michael Jackson\u2019s life from 1992 to 2009.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Reasons they might not move:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Once you get divorced, it\u2019s hard to consider giving it another chance.<span style=\"mso-spacerun:yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>They were run out of here before, so LA football fans would rather start over.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Conclusion: Like Jacksonville and Minnesota, St Louis doesn\u2019t bring in a ton of revenue but the team still turns a profit where they are at.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>The team is up for sale and rumor has it that keeping the team in St Louis will not be a part of any sale agreement (Georgia Frontiere\u2019s kids aren\u2019t particularly loyal- go figure.)<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Of all of the \u2018long-distance\u2019 moves, the Rams are the most likely; however the real possibilities lie in teams moving a much shorter distance.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\"><strong>2. San Diego Chargers <o:p><\/o:p><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Reasons they might move: They\u2019re going to move, it\u2019s just a matter of where.<span style=\"mso-spacerun:yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>The Spanos family, the Charger owners, seems to prefer to stay in San Diego County by moving to either Chula Vista or Oceanside, but if those options don\u2019t work out LA is the next logical step.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Reasons they won\u2019t move: the only way the Chargers stay at Qualcomm is if the city comes in and decides to put tens of millions into renovating the stadium and the surrounding area.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>The Chargers have a better shot of putting a tooth under their pillow and getting a stadium, then having San Diego provide it.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Conclusion: A Chargers move to LA just makes sense.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>It doesn\u2019t interfere with any of the divisions, they already have thousands of ticket holders in LA and Orange county (including your truly.)<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>The Chargers seem to legitimately want to stay in San Diego County but there\u2019s only so long you can hope for that before they see the writing on the wall.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>The bad news though for Charger football fans, the last team to move from San Diego to LA was the Clippers.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\"><strong>1. Oakland Raiders<o:p><\/o:p><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Reasons they might move:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>If you haven\u2019t noticed the theme: all 5 of these teams are in the bottom-12 in Total Revenue and yet all of them are turning a healthy profit.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>So why do I think these teams could move to LA- because the teams that don\u2019t turn a profit (I\u2019m looking at you, Lions) are so crappy I don\u2019t want them anywhere near California.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>The Raiders too are profitable in Oakland, despite their hole of a stadium (no pun intended.)<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>But we all know they still have a strong fan base in LA, enough to make a move to the City of Industry very profitable.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>And we know that Al Davis is crazy.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Reasons they won\u2019t move:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>Did I mention that Al Davis is crazy?<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>It\u2019s likely that he moves back and forth between LA and Oakland every 20 years like a celebrity that splits time between Hollywood and New York.<span style=\"mso-spacerun:yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>But it\u2019s also likely that he just decides to stick it out in Oakland and turn 20m in profit every year.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Conclusion:<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>The crazy factor is still in play here.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>If someone told me that every offseason Al Davis flipped a coin to decide whether or not to stay in Oakland that would be only slightly more unbelievable than that it\u2019s come up heads for nearly 20 straight years.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/span>The fact remains that the Raiders would be an easy move distance-wise, they already have the history and fans, they need a new stadium, it wouldn\u2019t screw up the Divisions, the list goes on and on as to why Los Angeles just makes sense for the Raiders. <o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">&#8212;&#8211;<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal\"><span style=\"font-family:\" trebuchet=\"\" ms\"\"=\"\">Of course all of this is based on the 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