{"id":4697,"date":"2009-02-15T07:00:00","date_gmt":"2009-02-15T07:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lbpost.com\/articles\/sports\/wilson-girls-soccer-forfeits-games-drops-in-cif-seeding\/"},"modified":"2009-02-15T07:00:00","modified_gmt":"2009-02-15T07:00:00","slug":"wilson-girls-soccer-forfeits-games-drops-in-cif-seeding","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/sports\/wilson-girls-soccer-forfeits-games-drops-in-cif-seeding","title":{"rendered":"Wilson Girls&#8217; Soccer Forfeits Games, Drops In CIF Seeding"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><div style='float:left;padding-right:10px;padding-bottom:5px;'><img src='images\/archive\/sports\/photo2522358.jpg' align='left' \/><\/div>\n<p>         <!--StartFragment-->             <\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Due to one of their players illegally participating in a  non-CIF soccer league, the defending national champion Wilson Bruins girls&#8217;  soccer team is forfeiting four league contests.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The violation occurred on January 23<sup>rd<\/sup>, and  they&#8217;re forfeiting their four league wins after that date that the player  subsequently participated in.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp;  <\/span>Their record now drops to 7-5, and they finish in fourth place in the  Moore League, instead of as co-champions with Poly.<span style=\"mso-spacerun:  yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>Their CIF seed also now drops from second to fourth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Moore League secretary Jim Lineberger says, &#8220;You can&#8217;t  participate in club games during the season, although you certainly can  outside.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>[After being made aware  of the situation] the Wilson coach called the girl in and sat her down and  said, &#8216;We&#8217;re going to CIF, we need to know what happened.&#8217;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>She played one time, on January 23<sup>rd<\/sup>,  so the coach went back through the record and forfeited their four wins after  the 23<sup>rd<\/sup>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The four forfeited wins are over Jordan, Cabrillo, Lakewood,  and Compton, who now all gain a victory.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp;  <\/span>Lakewood and Cabrillo now move up from being a three and a four-seed in  the playoffs, respectively, to a two and a three-seed.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>&#8220;This was a  miscommunication,&#8221; said Wilson head coach Jason Kirkwood.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>&#8220;There was confusion on her part,  apparently because of the free association rule.<span style=\"mso-spacerun:  yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>After it was brought to my attention we did the right thing  and self-reported.&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>We are  withholding the players&#8217; name at Kirkwood&#8217;s request, though it is worth noting  that the player is not a starter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">According to Jorge Polanco, the head coach of the Cabrillo  girls&#8217; team, his school alerted Kirkwood to the player&#8217;s activity.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>A volunteer parent from the Jaguars was  at a local park, and taped the game the player participated in.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>According to Polanco, the parent was  taping the game to make sure that a Cabrillo player was not participating.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>When he realized there was another  Moore League player on the tape, he brought it to Polanco.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>&#8220;I really didn&#8217;t want to bring  anyone down,&#8221; he said, &#8220;but rules are rules.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>I brought it to our [girls&#8217;] athletic  director [Denise Sarno], who brought it to [Kirkwood].&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>After seeing the tape, Kirkwood  self-reported and forfeited the games.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp;  <\/span>The general feeling among coaches we talked to was that, had Polanco  given the tape to CIF instead of Kirkwood, the penalties could have been more  severe for the Bruins.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>CIF&#8217;s  office was closed for the day, so we haven&#8217;t confirmed that, and there is also  no word yet as to whether or not CIF will take further action in penalizing  Wilson.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The league the player participated in is what&#8217;s referred to  as a Sunday league, or a Hispanic league.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp;  <\/span>According to several coaches, it requires effort to keep some of their  players from participating in these leagues.<span style=\"mso-spacerun:  yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>Polanco told us that while the official cutoff for not  participating in non-CIF league games was anytime after November 14<sup>th<\/sup>,  he set the date for his team at November 1<sup>st<\/sup>.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>Then, when he discovered two of his  players participating after his cutoff (but before the CIF date), he suspended  the players for the first two games.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp;  <\/span>&#8220;This is what they say is the right way,&#8221; he said, &#8220;So  we&#8217;re doing it the right way.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">One Moore League coach said that when they worked at a  previous school, it was very hard to keep players out of the Hispanic leagues,  and parents videotaping the games was common.<span style=\"mso-spacerun:  yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>A coach of a Moore League boys&#8217; team said that in his  opinion, &#8220;Girls <i>and <\/i><span style=\"font-style:normal\">guys are doing  it all the time, at every level.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Lakewood girls&#8217; coach Scott Manson disagrees with  specifically prohibiting players from participating in the Hispanic  leagues.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>&#8220;Here&#8217;s the deal:  it&#8217;s an antiquated law, almost a racist law.<span style=\"mso-spacerun:  yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>It&#8217;s set up for the <i>club<\/i><span style=\"font-style:normal\">  player&mdash;a club player tends to be the player who can spend money.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>The culture of the Hispanic community  is that they play in these Sunday leagues, and it&#8217;s a family gathering.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>It&#8217;s a hard choice to make if they have  to say, &#8216;I&#8217;ll stop playing on my family team with my aunt and dad to go play  for three months in high school.&#8217;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp;  <\/span>Everyone runs into problems with it.<span style=\"mso-spacerun:  yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>It&#8217;s probably something that needs to be revisited in a lot  of coaches&#8217; minds because it&#8217;s so hard to keep Hispanic players away from  them.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The leagues (the Cesar Chavez and Miguel Hidalgo leagues are  the most popular LB leagues) are, from our understanding, often just a cut  above pickup games, but are counted as illegal games for CIF players because of  the presence of officials, and a league organization.<span style=\"mso-spacerun:  yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>But with players always looking to raise their profiles,  it&#8217;s a rule that truly has affected every team.<span style=\"mso-spacerun:  yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>&#8220;I have to deal with it,&#8221; says Poly coach Teri  Collins, &#8220;because [Jackrabbit] Megan Brock competes with her Premiere club  team and they go to the NCAA Showcase every year, so I can&#8217;t play her until she&#8217;s  done with that team.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>Last year it  was Keyana [Thompson-Shaw] and Megan.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Kirkwood said he&#8217;d never heard of the Hispanic leagues  before, but said it was now his understanding as well that many teams in the  league had players participating in them.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp;  <\/span>The potential impact on Wilson&#8217;s playoff situation is huge, though it  won&#8217;t be known fully until CIF releases their playoff pairings this Monday, at  12:45pm.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>Being a four-seed as  opposed to a two-seed (since they lost a coin flip with Poly) could mean the difference  between starting out at home against a mid-seed team and starting on the road  against a high-seed.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">&nbsp; <\/span>Check back at  LBPostSports for more information as we get it, and for our live announcement  of the playoff pairings on Monday.<\/p>\n<p>             <!--EndFragment-->                                             <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We&#8217;re keeping you up to date on this breaking news story.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":33,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"newspack_sponsor_sponsorship_scope":"","newspack_sponsor_native_byline_display":"inherit","newspack_sponsor_native_category_display":"inherit","newspack_sponsor_underwriter_style":"inherit","newspack_sponsor_underwriter_placement":"inherit","inline_featured_image":false,"newspack_ads_suppress_ads":false,"newspack_popups_has_disabled_popups":"","_":"","_author_alias":"","cap-aim":"","cap-description":"","cap-display_name":"","cap-first_name":"","cap-jabber":"","cap-last_name":"","cap-linked_account":"","cap-newspack_employer":"","cap-newspack_job_title":"","cap-newspack_phone_number":"","cap-newspack_role":"","cap-user_email":"","cap-user_login":"","cap-website":"","cap-yahooim":"","newspack_article_summary":"","newspack_email_html":"","newspack_email_type":"","newspack_featured_image_position":"","newspack_hide_page_title":"","newspack_hide_updated_date":false,"newspack_post_subtitle":"","newspack_show_share_buttons":"","newspack_sponsor_byline_prefix":"","newspack_sponsor_disclaimer_override":"","newspack_sponsor_flag_override":"","newspack_sponsor_only_direct":"","newspack_sponsor_url":"","newspack_article_summary_title":"Overview:","newspack_show_updated_date":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"newspack_spnsrs_tax":[],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-4697","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-sports","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/sports\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4697","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/sports\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/sports\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/sports\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/33"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/sports\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4697"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/sports\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4697\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/sports\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4697"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/sports\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4697"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/sports\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4697"},{"taxonomy":"newspack_spnsrs_tax","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/sports\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/newspack_spnsrs_tax?post=4697"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lbpost.com\/sports\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/coauthors?post=4697"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}